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Friday, March 25, 2005

List of E61 machines

While researching and contemplating my machine purchase, I came across several alternatives. Below I have tried to put together a list of home espresso machines that use the famed E61. I have made a distinction between the ones that use the complete group and those who only use the group head.

On most machines, there is a link to the manufacturer's homepage - for some I have not yet located these sites. Please note that some of these machines are only available in Europe while the availability of others is limited to the US. Still, the list should be relatively comprehensive but probably not exhaustive...

Machines with complete E61 Group:

BFC Levetta
BFC Perfetta (aka La Valentina Perfetta)
ECM Cellini (aka ECM Mechanika)
ECM Cellini Premium (aka Mechanika Profi)
ECM Giotto (aka ECM Technika and Rocket)
ECM Giotto Premium (aka ECM Technika Profi and Rocket)
ECM Veneziano S1
Euro2000 Junior (aka Espressa Mini)
Expobar Brewtus
Expobar Control Leva
Fiorenzato Briccoletta a Levetta
Fiorenzato Colombina
Isomac Amica (aka Omixam Mary)
Isomac Hexagon
Isomac Millenium (aka Omixam Roxana)
Isomac Mondiale
Isomac Rituale (aka Bazzar A3, Vitudurum V3 and Omixam Julie)
Isomac Tea (aka Bazzar A3, Vitudurum V3 and Omixam Sophie)
Isomac Zaffiro (aka Bazzar A1, Vitudurum V1 and Omixam Liliane)
Izzo Alex a Levetta
Izzo Vivi
La Nuova Era Alexa
La Scala Butterfly
Magister Stella
Maver Charleston (aka Cafeco Venezia CL)
Maver Firenze
Maver Marte
Quick Mill Alexia
Quick Mill Andreja
Quick Mill Andreja Premium
Quick Mill Anita
Quick Mill Eliane
Quick Mill Vetrano
Salvatore Semi-Auto
San Remo Treviso (manufacturer website unknown)
Unico Splendor
Unique Baristar
Vibiemme Domobar
Vibiemme Domobar Super
Vitudurum V4
Wega Novacento

Machines with E61 Group Head:

Astra Gourmet Automatic
Astra Gourmet Semi-Auto
Astra Pro
BFC Junior (aka La Valentina, Diadema, Vittoria)
BFC Junior Automatic (aka La Valentina, Diadema, Vittoria)
DallaCorte Super Mini
ECM Veneziano A1
Expobar Office Control
Expobar Office Pulser
Fiorenzato Briccoletta a Pulsante
Grimac La Uno
Grimac La Uno Automatic
Grimac Mia
Isomac Relax (aka Omixam Alice)
Isomac Relax Automatic
Izzo Alex a Pulsante
La Nuova Era Alexa Automatic
Salvatore Automatic
Vibiemme Domobar Super Elettronica
Wega Mininova Inox (aka CMA, Astoria, San Marino) (aka Wega Lyra)
Wega Mininova Inox Automatic (aka CMA, Astoria, San Marino) (aka Wega Lyra)

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14 Comments:

Blogger Alf said...

Hi and thanks for this very informative and fun site.

Can anyone explain the difference between a "full" E61 machine and machine with E61 group head only?

I'm going to buy a HX machine and the Giotto (full 61), Domobar super (full 61) and La Valentina (partly 61) are on my list, any preferences?

Friday, April 21, 2006  
Blogger Teme said...

Hi Alf,

Thanks for the kind words.

A "full" or complete E61 group refers to the "leva" versions of the machines - they have the E61 grouphead, the pre-infusion chamber (the chrome cylindrical shape below the grouphead) and the manual lever for operating the brew cycle on the right side of the group. The machines that only have the E61 grouphead have just that, the grouphead, but lack the pre-infusion chamber and the manual lever (they have a button or a keypad of some sort instead).

All of the machines you mention have a very good reputation. Since I have no hands on experience on them, I cannot comment on their performance other than to say that all of them are more than adequate for home use. I have seen all of the machines in real life and I can therefore comment on a few aspects. I like the looks of the Giotto, the quality of its finish (the best of the three in my opinion) as well as the no-burn steam wand but I really do not care for its small and difficult to empty drip tray. The Vibiemme is bigger than the other two, the biggest boiler and therefore probably the best steaming power and it also has a huge drip tray. The brew pressure gauge is another plus of the Vibiemme. However, I don't like the feel of its steam valve operation. The Valentina steam valve has a better feel than the Vibiemme in my opinion but I like the no-burn wand of the Giotto better. The drip tray on the Valentina is of decent size, which is good. Depending on which model of the Valentine you are talking about, I do not like the fact that the hot water wand does not work if you switch the machine off (a useful feature if you want to refresh the boiler water).

You should also note that both the Vibiemme and the Valentine come in three different forms: 1) the "leva" with the full E61 group, 2) the "pulsante" with semi-automatic on/off operation of the pump via a button but not the "full" E61 group and 3) the automatic versions, i.e. the ones where you can pre-program the shot volumes on the keypad of the machine. The automatic versions do not have the "full" E61 group, either.

I hope this helps.

Br,
Teme

Friday, April 21, 2006  
Anonymous geir oglend said...

Great article Teme, I was wondering why you did not list the Faema e61 machine since it is now available in a single group both as a leva and w/ a 3way valve.
I’m sure you have noticed the differences between the manufacturing of these e61 Knock 0ff’s? They are all over the map in terms of tooling and tolerances, meaning that parts from one group will not necessarily fit another manufactures group. I also discovered that the Electra 2 piece group s also a knock off the original e61 but w/ the more common screen and screw vs. the hard to replace screen and gasket if left to long scenario!
Another observation that I made, is that the preinfusion on a direct plumbed in e61 machine works better than the tanked version. This could be caused by the higher water pressure? It almost seems like it is a wetter infusion rather than a steamy vapor type infusion? I’m still working on this as there are many other variable that I have not researched?!
Your blog oozes with passion, next time I’m in your part of the world I will look you up, Ciao..
geir øglend (a displaced Norwegian in Canada)

Sunday, November 26, 2006  
Blogger Teme said...

Thanks Geir!

I originally excluded the Faema E61 one group machine because it is more a commercial than a home machine, and the original motivation for compiling this list was the research I was doing before purchasing my current machine.

Yep, I have noticed that there are significant variation between the "E61" groups from one manufacturer to another. I didn't know that the Elektra was a E61 knock-off. I know it looks quite similar from the outside, but I thought it was their proprietory design...

The observation regarding the pre-infusion with a plumbed in vs a reservoir model E61 machine makes sense. The difference would naturally depend on the line pressure of the plumbed in machine - too much line pressure and you will have water dripping from the grouphead constantly :)

Thanks again for the kind words! If you ever come to Copenhagen, I'd be happy to brew you a decent cup :)

Br,
Teme

Tuesday, November 28, 2006  
Anonymous Coffee Maniac said...

What about the Reneka Atalante?
It has a E61 grouphead, or two of them (not sore if they exist with one group).

http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=machineatlantea2592f1ek5.jpg

Tuesday, February 06, 2007  
Blogger Teme said...

Hi there!

I think they do not exist in the one group form. Also, the Atalante is a full commercial machine and the list is geared more towards home/prosumer machinery...

Pretty machine, though :)

Br,
Teme

Saturday, February 10, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, I want to upgrade. My current machine is a C1000 Capresso. I want to get somthing I will have more control over for a better espresso. I sort of stumbbled upon info about the E61 group. I wanted to know if there is any significant difference in the quality of the espresso when brewing with just a group head rather than the full group. Is there a much bigger loss in temp or anything like that? Thanks, any info would be helpful!

-Ben

Friday, September 21, 2007  
Blogger Teme said...

Hi Ben,

I do not think that a loss in temperature is a major issue here and the differences would be small anyway. Having said that, I personally prefer the pre-infusion capability of the manual E61 group.

Br,
Teme

Friday, September 21, 2007  
Blogger Gilberto said...

Hi Thomas.

I asked on coffeegeek for suggestions/opinions on an Expobar Brewtus II and a Giotto Premium. I had a guy point my gaze at the Dalla Corte Mini, I read the your great detailed review (Thanks). This is going to be my first espresso machine, I have no experiences other than fully automatics. Could you dilucidate me on what difference does having a complete E61 group and just having a E61 head cause. Is it a reasonable comparison Dalla Corte vs Expobar-Giotto-Domobar? For the amount I'm spending what do you feel is the best machine for me to get? I'm also looking at the Mazzer Mini E, notice you own a Type A, Am I better off getting that one or the Type B?

Thank you in advance,
Porras

Saturday, January 19, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Teme,

Great listing and extremely helpful indeed! I have a question, would you put the Fracino (the UK only manufacturer of coffee machines) on the E61 list? I have been told that their version is not the original one but rather developed version by themseloves, although looking at it they are very close, Can you please comment on that?

Thank you in advance and please keep the great work, I come around very oftent to update myself on the intricacies of espresso-making art!

Thanks!

Jordan

Wednesday, January 23, 2008  
OpenID chambolle said...

I've had an ECM (now "Rocket") Giotto Premium for about a year now, an upgrade from a series of machines that included a "Coffee Gaggia" and Saeco Vapore. I also have a Francis X3 with a Barazta grinder in my office for emergency shots during the work day.

The Giotto Premium is a great machine -- beautiful, easy to use, excellent shots and powerful steamer. You get used to the small capacity drip tray - just dump it every few shots, no big deal. I prefer the 'slip on, slip off' screen and gasket in the E61 grouphead on the Giotto -- no more stripped screws and bashed knuckles trying to screw the screen on and off in the meagre space below the group on most machines. It makes cleaning the group a snap -- and cleaning is really important if you want top notch shots.

But take note - there is a pressure control relay that self-destructs every six months to a year with heavy use. You'd best get used to replacing these (at about $50 a pop, plus labor if you don't want to diddle with the innards of your machine by yourself). When it goes, the pressure gauge will erratically ascend into the "red zone" without warning, or will noodle around below optimal pressure for pulling a shot. You'll then know it's time for a new relay.

I got a Pasquini Moka grinder with my Giotto, but if I had it to do over again, I would definitely go Mazzer, and probably the electronic. Here's why: (1) Mazzer has infinitely variable grind. The Pasquini has click stops which somehow always end up in-between the grind I'd like to dial in. (2) The Mazzer has a 'quick release' hopper so you can switch between decaf and caffeine. I never drink decaf, my spouse wants decaf, and marital friction over the morning drug of choice is not a good thing. (3) It is difficult to grind just the right amount to dose your shot without leaving coffee in the hopper, which is pretty useless stuff after a minute or two and should be dosed out and thrown away. An electronic doser, if it really works as advertised, would eliminate that issue. I guess I've about sold myself on a $750 investment in a Mazzer electronic grinder, from the sounds of it!

Monday, March 31, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great summary of E61 machines and the explanation of the difference between a complete E61 and E61 grouphead. There is one machine I am particularly curious about as there isn't much information available about them. Its the Magister Stella. How do they perform as a HX E61 machine? I'm in the midst of considering the purchase of one of these and don't want to end up with a lemon. Would the Magister Stella be able to produce good coffee?

Friday, July 04, 2008  
Blogger BL said...

Great list and summary - thanks!

Monday, September 08, 2008  
Anonymous itinerant said...

Nice job. If you'd like to add the San Remo website to your list of E61 machines, it can be found here;
http://www.sanremomachines.com/index.php?lang=2&page=7&product=15

Sunday, November 21, 2010  

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